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re: Official 25-man Raid Loot System (EPGP)

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EPGP is based on the concept of Effort Points and Gear Points. Effort Points quantify the effort each member put towards the (common) guild goals and Gear Points quantify what each member got back in return. Loot priority is computed as the quotient of the two; priority (PR) is equal to EP/GP.

In a sense EPGP is like zero sum, but without all the need to rebalance the system, or impose taxes to give points for other effort put into the guild. Zero sum awards GP/N points to each player for each item dropped (GP the value of the item and N the number of players in the raid) so that the sum of all points for the members of the guild is zero. EPGP on the other hand is by definition self balanced since priority (and hence chance to receive loot) is directly proportional to the effort you put and inversely proportional to the rewards you got. It is also much more flexible than zero sum since it doesn't require a specific balance point (sum to be equal to zero for example). As such points can be awarded for almost anything without any taxation or over complicating the system (see below). Also another problem with zero sum is the random value of each boss. A boss kill is a boss kill and the effort to kill it is the same no matter if it happened to drop 1 or 2 epics. With zero sum since the amount of effort points the members get is proportional to the loot dropped which is definitely not representing fairly the effort each member puts in the guild.

EP Table:
Recurring EP = 25 EP/15 mins
Attendance Award = 100 EP (online and ready 15 min prior to raid)
Boss Kill = 200 EP
Final Boss Kill = 300 EP
Guild First Boss Kill = Boss Kill + 100 EP
Progression Wipes = 200 EP (i.e. if we wipe constantly all night on a new boss, 200 points are awarded for sticking it out, awarded to the raid ONLY)

If you sign up and do not show up by the scheduled start time, you will be penalized 100 EP.

Decay = 10%
EP and GP depreciate at a weekly 10% rate. Since both values are reduced by the same percentage, PR is unaffected. This effectively deals with any "EP hoarding".

Bidding

1. Once the boss drops and all (if any) raid members have been resurrected, the Master Looter will link all of the items on the boss into Raid chat.
2. Drops will be bid upon in order of highest to lowest GP (e.g. [Pauldrons of the Vanquished Hero] , [Void Reaver Greaves] , and then [Wristguards of Determination] ).
3. All players who have the drop as a Primary item will whisper the Master Looter with the word "bid".
4. If no Primary class player is interested, the Master Looter will call for off-spec bids, and off-spec players can then whisper the Master Looter with the word "bid".
5. If no one is interested, the item will go to the raid disenchanter, and the shards will be stored in the Guild Bank.

Standby
- If you are online, you get EP - the same amount if you're in the raid or on Standby. The only requirement is that your Main is eligible for our 25-man content. Only players who are offline will not receive EP.

- If you are on Standby, you need to stay on the Standby toon (whether Main or Alt) for the duration of the raid to receive full EP. If you need to log to another toon, you MUST whisper an Officer or the Raid Leader, and it is at their discretion how you will be added back into the raid on Standby. To be clear, you can lose EP and we are not going to manually add it back.

Miscellaneous
- All other EP awards will come from an Officer-sanctioned "event" (e.g. we decide to hand out 2000 EP per resist set).

- Players are listed on EPGP and are required to take their Main to all raids. If an alt is required for a specific raid, the alt can use their PR to obtain a drop.

- Bind-on-Equip tradeskill patterns are equal to the GP value of the item they produce and are non-negotiable.

- Off-spec items cost 10% of their normal GP.

- Note: EPGP uses the Officer's Notes as an in-game database for each players EP and GP. The format is EP,GP.

(thanks to Team X-Calibre guild, Gurubashi server for some info contained herein)


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re: Official 25-man Raid Loot System (EPGP)

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Thank you for that very clear description boss. I thought I'd add something and post a link to the page where you can get the addon.

http://code.google.com/p/epgp/

Enjoy.
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